Comments on: Why Are Public Schools All or Nothing? http://www.itfrom.us/2007/12/why-are-public-schools-all-or-nothing/ A Good Christian Raisin' and a Eighth Grade Education Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:24:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dana http://www.itfrom.us/2007/12/why-are-public-schools-all-or-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-1547 Dana Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:59:03 +0000 http://www.itfrom.us/2007/12/08/why-are-public-schools-all-or-nothing/#comment-1547 Not a problem. : ) A court in CA came to the opposite conclusion...no idea how the Supreme Court would rule or if it should. I'm still stuck on education being a state issue. Not a problem. : ) A court in CA came to the opposite conclusion…no idea how the Supreme Court would rule or if it should. I’m still stuck on education being a state issue.

]]> By: sadcox http://www.itfrom.us/2007/12/why-are-public-schools-all-or-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-1546 sadcox Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:59:09 +0000 http://www.itfrom.us/2007/12/08/why-are-public-schools-all-or-nothing/#comment-1546 <i>...if the real goal is to educate all children rather than just politicize the issue</i> And there's the rub. Like I said in my original post, I want to read about this more. Thanks for the great info Dana! I wasn't sure what search terms would give me information on this..."a la Carte education", "a la carte schools", etc. …if the real goal is to educate all children rather than just politicize the issue

And there’s the rub.

Like I said in my original post, I want to read about this more. Thanks for the great info Dana! I wasn’t sure what search terms would give me information on this…”a la Carte education”, “a la carte schools”, etc.

]]> By: Dana http://www.itfrom.us/2007/12/why-are-public-schools-all-or-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-1545 Dana Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:44:40 +0000 http://www.itfrom.us/2007/12/08/why-are-public-schools-all-or-nothing/#comment-1545 OK, some actual information...the West Virginia Supreme Court of Appeals voted UNANIMOUSLY to allow an order from a lower court to stand which required the state board of education to allow homeschoolers to play on school teams. But schools are not the only ones opposed to homeschoolers being allowed on public school teams. Many fear government intrusion by holding homeschooled students to the same criteria public schooled students are held to for participation, ie., grades and attendance. I only took two classes my senior year. I don't remember there being any issue with it. I only needed a US government credit to graduate and decided English would be good since I had gone a year not speaking any (I was an exchange student in Germany my junior year). I showed up a little after lunch, took my two classes and left. And I worked at a factory, getting off at four in the morning. I don't know if there were special accommodations made for me, but it does seem that some solution could be come to if the real goal is to educate all children rather than just politicize the issue. OK, some actual information…the West Virginia Supreme Court of Appeals voted UNANIMOUSLY to allow an order from a lower court to stand which required the state board of education to allow homeschoolers to play on school teams.

But schools are not the only ones opposed to homeschoolers being allowed on public school teams. Many fear government intrusion by holding homeschooled students to the same criteria public schooled students are held to for participation, ie., grades and attendance.

I only took two classes my senior year. I don’t remember there being any issue with it. I only needed a US government credit to graduate and decided English would be good since I had gone a year not speaking any (I was an exchange student in Germany my junior year). I showed up a little after lunch, took my two classes and left. And I worked at a factory, getting off at four in the morning.

I don’t know if there were special accommodations made for me, but it does seem that some solution could be come to if the real goal is to educate all children rather than just politicize the issue.

]]> By: sadcox http://www.itfrom.us/2007/12/why-are-public-schools-all-or-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-1544 sadcox Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:50:42 +0000 http://www.itfrom.us/2007/12/08/why-are-public-schools-all-or-nothing/#comment-1544 TVD, I don't necessarily want it to happen. I mean, if I wanted my child to learn about something I know nothing about (art for instance), the public school system would be my last resort. I'm was just thinking why <i>couldn't</i> it happen? And is the fact that it can't happen even legal? TVD,

I don’t necessarily want it to happen. I mean, if I wanted my child to learn about something I know nothing about (art for instance), the public school system would be my last resort.

I’m was just thinking why couldn’t it happen? And is the fact that it can’t happen even legal?

]]> By: TVD http://www.itfrom.us/2007/12/why-are-public-schools-all-or-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-1543 TVD Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:46:46 +0000 http://www.itfrom.us/2007/12/08/why-are-public-schools-all-or-nothing/#comment-1543 Scott, I like the idea! Will never happen though. You see, you employed critical thinking to a problem. And that is something public schools would never do. You were thinking "outside the box" to solve a problem rather than figuring out how to misappropriate more money into said box. Scott,
I like the idea! Will never happen though. You see, you employed critical thinking to a problem. And that is something public schools would never do. You were thinking “outside the box” to solve a problem rather than figuring out how to misappropriate more money into said box.

]]> By: sadcox http://www.itfrom.us/2007/12/why-are-public-schools-all-or-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-1542 sadcox Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:29:32 +0000 http://www.itfrom.us/2007/12/08/why-are-public-schools-all-or-nothing/#comment-1542 Dana, The NEA--ugh. That's a whole diffrent post/rant. But shouldn't parents be allowed to choose which parts of the curriculum they'd like to use in addition to the extra currucular stuff? Dana,

The NEA–ugh. That’s a whole diffrent post/rant.

But shouldn’t parents be allowed to choose which parts of the curriculum they’d like to use in addition to the extra currucular stuff?

]]> By: Dana http://www.itfrom.us/2007/12/why-are-public-schools-all-or-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-1541 Dana Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:20:19 +0000 http://www.itfrom.us/2007/12/08/why-are-public-schools-all-or-nothing/#comment-1541 In some districts, homeschooled students can participate. For the most part, however, I think these activities are the districts' biggest carrots and they aren't likely to let them go. The NEA, despite its supposed concern for the social aspects of homeschooling, has stated that it does not think homeschooled students should be allowed to compete in these activities. Certainly they are not weighing in for the interests of the children in this? In some districts, homeschooled students can participate. For the most part, however, I think these activities are the districts’ biggest carrots and they aren’t likely to let them go. The NEA, despite its supposed concern for the social aspects of homeschooling, has stated that it does not think homeschooled students should be allowed to compete in these activities. Certainly they are not weighing in for the interests of the children in this?

]]> By: Jason X http://www.itfrom.us/2007/12/why-are-public-schools-all-or-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-1540 Jason X Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:10:05 +0000 http://www.itfrom.us/2007/12/08/why-are-public-schools-all-or-nothing/#comment-1540 Hear hear! Hear hear!

]]> By: Hungry Mother http://www.itfrom.us/2007/12/why-are-public-schools-all-or-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-1532 Hungry Mother Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:58:33 +0000 http://www.itfrom.us/2007/12/08/why-are-public-schools-all-or-nothing/#comment-1532 To me, the problem with public education is that aside from the teachers and students, the people involved are typically not well-educated themselves, lack imagination, and have no courage. I've always thought that the worst way to learn anything is sitting in a classroom listening to someone talk at you. Try to find a non-teaching education official that agrees with me. To me, the problem with public education is that aside from the teachers and students, the people involved are typically not well-educated themselves, lack imagination, and have no courage. I’ve always thought that the worst way to learn anything is sitting in a classroom listening to someone talk at you. Try to find a non-teaching education official that agrees with me.

]]> By: billymac http://www.itfrom.us/2007/12/why-are-public-schools-all-or-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-1530 billymac Sun, 09 Dec 2007 13:05:22 +0000 http://www.itfrom.us/2007/12/08/why-are-public-schools-all-or-nothing/#comment-1530 I think that this is a good idea, but an administrative nightmare. This could work in a business environment with real supply/demand dynamics, but with a government entitity that doesn't have to live within real-world standards, it is a stretch. I think that this is a good idea, but an administrative nightmare. This could work in a business environment with real supply/demand dynamics, but with a government entitity that doesn’t have to live within real-world standards, it is a stretch.

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